Miranda May - Grief Medium

Have you ever communed with the dead? This week's guest says anyone can be a medium, they just need to be taught the skill. Miranda May lost someone very close to her and like many others, she relied heavily on alcohol to cope with that loss. Looking for a more sustainable solution, a friend introduced her to cannabis and she found some relief. However, Miranda struggled with feelings of guilt and discomfort over using the plant, due to the lingering stigma around it. Eventually she realized how important cannabis was for her health and wellbeing. Now she's helping others process trauma, grief and loss with the help of cannabis and using her own skills as a medium. She says she wants to teach more people how to exercise their own "medium muscles", so they can commune with their lost loved ones and move into a more accepting, healthy place. Miranda discusses some of what she's learned on her journey, why she believes anyone can be a medium, and how she wants to bring people together on healing cannabis grief retreats in the future! Plus some crucial cannabis bills are moving through Illinois' legislature on the News Joint Wrap and another state says it's time to end the Cannabis Prohibition!

Transcript

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hey hey what's up Stoner fam welcome to another episode of the Cannabis man podcast thank you for clicking on the
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show I'm your host Don Kleppin and if it's your first time here welcome in this is a show where we try to take a journalistic look at all things cannabis
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I like to bring expert interviews to you or at least interviews with people who are involved in the Cannabis industry
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somehow whether they're entrepreneurs or you know they've created some product or business that they're bringing to people
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that might be a new experience in states that have legalized cannabis there are now 21 adult use States possibly 22 or
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set for maybe a few more this year and uh over 35 for medical so lots of new states with new businesses popping up
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there's also a lot of people doing research on cannabis scientists professors people with getting
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government money now to look into cannabis and answer the questions we all have about what cannabis is actually
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doing what it can do for your life and you know what it doesn't do trying to suss out the truth from some of the
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falsehoods out there it sort of feels like we're at this snake Goyle salesman part of it I don't mean to say that CBD
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has no benefits I believe that it does but there is a difference between what CBD actually does medically what
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benefits it offers and sort of over-promising um that it's going to solve every problem in your life and
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then when it doesn't you feel like you know the whole thing was a hoax and so uh trying to suss out the legitimate
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truth of what cannabis is doing there are a lot of people studying exactly those questions right now and I like to
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speak with them and bring those interviews to you as well as government officials relieving these state-run
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groups now that are responsible for establishing the rules of legal cannabis going forward in different states and
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kind of seeing which policies are going to take hold when uh hopefully soon here cannabis does become decriminalized
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federally hopefully someday soon moved off the schedule one substance list and uh ideally legalized so that we can have
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interstate commerce and we can kind of actually establish a Country-Wide framework for what cannabis Market looks
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like not this sort of Patchwork state by state legalization that the way that we've done it it's caused a whole host
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of problems which we get into on the show and I've got a great interview for you today there's a woman who is really
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just coming into her acceptance of what cannabis means to her what it's changed
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in her life in a positive way and it took her a long journey and and kind of a long way through personal grief and
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loss and you know utilizing alcohol as she puts it for a lot of that and it didn't allow her to process her grief
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for a long time and now she uses cannabis to help others process their
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grief and kind of move forward to a place of acceptance and she's here to talk a little about that and what her
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sort of goals for the future are I've also got some news stories to share with you on the news joint wrap and I'll get
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thank you
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[Music] yeah and we're back want to thank you so
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much again for listening to the show really appreciate all the great listeners that have joined in the last
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almost a year since uh since I've started this show April 20th of 2022 that was the Inception date and uh or
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the launch date I guess the inaugural episode and we're approaching that one year anniversary and I gotta tell you listener I have a really exciting
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interview that is lined up for 4 20 for that episode got a lot of special things in the works but that interview I've
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already recorded it and I gotta tell you I know that you're going to love it it is profound in a lot of different ways
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and the guest the interview guest that I have for that episode I know you know who they are and I know you'll be
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excited to hear what they have to say and with that let's roll into this episode and move on to the news joint
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wrap brought to you by Illinois newsjoint.com think of it as the joint you can hit for all your Illinois
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Cannabis News and reviews and I like to gather some of the great news stories
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and events and kind of reviews that Illinois news joint.com does and I read some of them that I think are worth your
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attention uh that I can in uh in these episodes and the first one I'd like to start with today is that Illinois
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cannabis oversight bills move forward uh four Illinois House bills involving
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cannabis oversight and regulations were assigned to the executive committee last
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month at the end of it February 28th uh and these uh bills
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hb1436 specifically amends the Cannabis regulation and Tax Act and it creates
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the Cannabis equity and oversight commission the bill quote provides that the commission shall administer and
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enforce the provisions of the ACT relating to the oversight licensing registration and certification of
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dispensing organizations cultivation centers craft Growers and fuser organizations transporting organizations
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Laboratories and agents including but not limited to the issuance of identification cards and establishing
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limits on the potency or serving size of cannabis or cannabis products provides
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that the commission may suspend or revoke the license of or impose other penalties upon dispensing organizations
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cultivation centers yada yada all the groups that I just mentioned so this is establishing that commission which is
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going to be a lot more Hands-On it seems regarding these licenses for all these
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different cannabis sorts of Industries Transportation cultivation craft growing infusing you heard it all there
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Laboratories too uh there's another bill hb2430 provides the Department of
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Agriculture shall adopt rules to establish cannabis Nursery licenses that allow for the sale of cannabis seeds
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seedlings and cuttings to registered qualified patients under the compassionate use of medical cannabis
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act for the purposes of Home cultivation subject to specified Provisions so this has to do with the suppliers where you
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can get your cannabis grow from home supplies that including seedlings and cuttings anything that you might need to
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kind of start your home grow at least in turn terms of the genetic material that you need for the plants that's what this
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hb2430 has to deal with another one hb2522 sponsored by repsonia Harper it
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deals with delivery licenses and requires Department of Financial and Professional Regulation to issue cannabis delivery organization licenses
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and quote contains Provisions regarding applications for cannabis delivery organization licenses end quote so I've
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talked about this on the show a few times before listener I have said that we are right on the precipice of
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cannabis delivery in Illinois I had a feeling that in 2023 it was going to be legalized we may be looking at 2024 now
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with the pace of how this is moving but we are about to see legal cannabis delivery in Illinois I unfor I mean I
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expect some small businesses to start offering the service I expect new companies to jump forward maybe but
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unfortunately ultimately I expect this to fall under the purview of like your RAV your average doordash or ubereats or
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Postmates or whatever you use as a typical delivery app GrubHub maybe um I have a feeling that you're going to
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start to be able to see we delivery in those apps the way that you can get alcohol through doordash now a lot of
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these have sort of broadened their delivery Horizons Postmates it feels like you can get a lot on there so uh
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expect to see cannabis added to your doordash or uh you know your ubereats
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delivery menu sometime in the next year or so that'll be exciting but as I said
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I'm also excited to see if there are any small businesses that start offering this service and kind of compete with
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that uh me personally I guess I would kind of prefer it if my cannabis driver was only delivering other cannabis
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products as opposed to like Foods or alcohols or groceries or something I'm not sure why I guess maybe it's I just
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don't want the smells or the the taste of whatever food that they might be delivering to kind of you know pollute
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the uh I know it's in a container I know it's sealed and all that I'm sure this is an irrational fear of mine but I
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would just rather it if it was somebody who was delivering and oh their only responsibility their only product
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products were cannabis products that to me feels like it might be I don't know just something I'd be more interested in
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I might even pay a little more for that versus just kind of slapping it into my doordash order where they can oh yeah
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stop at 7-Eleven and uh grab me that uh you know Cookie Sandwich on the way here with my uh with my eighth of weed and my
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gummies you know but uh we'll see how this goes either way like I said expect that delivery sometime in the next year
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that'll be very exciting when that comes through uh another uh topic here on the news joint wrap let's move along
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Illinois Senate Bill addresses cannabis use and probation this is as Jason Brown
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at Illinois newsjoint.com says is an under the radar cannabis related Bill currently making its way through the
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Illinois Senate it was assigned to the subcommittee on cannabis last week and with a deadline established for March
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24th I'm recording this on the 16th right now it is the official start of the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament
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happy March Madness to anybody who celebrates that the brackets likely already busted but uh you know that's
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that's part of the fun who knows it's a great crazy crazy chances in the tournament and so anybody who's watching
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the games this is a fun time but uh back to the Senate Bill 1886 this amends
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Illinois unified code of Corrections and would provide quote that a person on probation conditional discharge or
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supervision shall not be ordered to refrain from having cannabis or alcohol in his or her body the rest of the
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sentence adds a caveat by stating unless the person was sentenced to probation conditional discharge or supervision for
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an offense which had as an element of it the presence of an intoxicating compound in the body or the person's taking part
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in a problem-solving Court certified by the administrative office in addition to that 1886 carves out a provision for
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Illinois's registered cannabis patients providing that quote a person on probation conditional discharge or
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supervision shall not be ordered to refrain from use or consumption of any substance lawfully prescribed by a
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medical provider or authorized by the compassionate use of medical cannabis program act so this 1886 the Senate bill
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that Jason Brown highlights here which is making its way through Springfield has to do with being allowed to use
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cannabis while on probation or under some kind of court appointed status
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there are people who would be medically prescribed cannabis by a doctor but if you have a certain status on the
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Illinois courts even though it's perfectly legal in this state you fall into this weird gray area where you're
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not allowed to have your medicine because of that so this Senate Bill 1886 is going to uh deal with with that
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little weird overlap which is nice and then cannabis expungement bills are moving through the Illinois house this
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is another article that Jason Brown pointed out four Illinois House bills that would expunge all criminal history
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records of an arrest for a cannabis conviction were referred to rules committee on March 10th the two first of
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these bills HB 1090 and 1101 automatically expunge all criminal
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history records for adults while the other two HB 2632 and 3846 expunge
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juvenile records and college students can cannabis convictions respectively so this has to do with just cannabis
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expungement something that we have talked about on the show I've certainly had guests come on and issue some pretty
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Stern Corrections and you know mentionings of this problem which is the fact that uh even though cannabis is
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very much legal allowed recreationally and medicinally in Illinois there are still people who have these crimes for
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cannabis on their records and they might be a part of one of these Court programs so they can't have access to their
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medically prescribed cannabis and we are still dealing with these uh piece by piece changes because of cannabis having
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been so recently illegal and uh prohibited so it's encouraging to see
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these uh House and Senate Bills moving forward having to do with things like delivery expungement and allowing people
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to get their medical cannabis even if they are under some court appointed program this is all great stuff and it's
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very exciting it'll be good to watch the developments of them I will certainly bring you any new information about the
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path of these bills and finally one event I want to mention cannabatty is going to host a second Stoner speed
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talking about Stoner speed dating events it was an episode not that long ago definitely recommend you go back and listen to it listener if you haven't yet
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but the second event is set for April 13th at the rise Lounge in Smoke easy in
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oh and just a note before we get to the interview listener we did run into some technical issues while we were recording
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we still started on clean feed which is kind of like Zoom so you can kind of hear that clear audio up front and then
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we ran into some interference and we kind of got some bleed over and we really couldn't get it fixed so we moved
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to a phone call and instead of restarting the interview we just kind of went from there so you'll hear the
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interview start on clean feed and then it kind of moves to a phone call sorry about that just wanted to give you a
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heads up when you hear that audio change it was just from some difficulties enjoy listener welcome back my guest today is
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a cannabis related counselor I would say also an entrepreneur but what she's
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really focused on is is helping people in some of their you know most difficult moments of life I think many of us have
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experienced grief in some form or fashion we've experienced loss and it's it's tough to get through you know
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depending on who and and when in life those circumstances can really rock you and sometimes just completely obliterate
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your foundations of good quality of life and of happiness and all that stuff so here to talk a little about how cannabis
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can help grieving people and talk a little about her experience with guiding people through some of these difficult
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moments and and how cannabis can help and some of what she does on her very own podcast where she's helping people
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do exactly this and figure out more about it is Miranda May welcome Miranda oh thank you Don I appreciate you having
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me today and you know I'm I'm really excited to have this conversation this is actually the first time I have
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publicly spoke about this and my advocacy about cannabis around grief so
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it makes me a little nervous if I if I've got to be honest but it's a conversation that needs to happen and it
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needs to be talked about more especially around healing healing our grief totally
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yeah you're absolutely right and I I can relate to that I understand the nerves you know there's it's unfortunate we as
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it's becoming legalized even in sort of uh Patchwork way state by state that it is the stigma against it from the Reefer
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Madness from the prohibition days dare education that many of us got in public school that that stigma's alive and well
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and I I felt nerves myself kind of be just I mean and Stakes aren't that high I'm just like a broadcaster but as a
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news person before I started my podcast I was concerned about you know appearing
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impartial losing any you know even perceived Integrity or whatever I I just
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there's there's Stakes it feels like but I want to you know commend you on making the decision to kind of Step Up and and
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take this journey and have the conversation that's might be risky but is worth having and on that note what
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was it that kind of got you thinking about cannabis and and how it relates to grief yeah you know what it actually
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dates us back to almost 14 years now in 2009 I was 27 years old and I
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experienced my first significant loss my first death and that was my husband and
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he was in a motorcycle accident and he did not survive oh gosh and that was I
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mean everything you could probably imagine what you go through losing your partner
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or your spouse and during that time I would have to say that I was a drinker
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it was just part of my lifestyle as a social Drinker a bartender and it was just alcohol was just kind of a part of
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my life sure and then when my husband passed it was it ended up you know
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becoming uh more prevalent and um you know we'll get into that I think
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later but there was one night a week where I would go visit a friend and it was a
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Tuesday evening and our thing was We're not gonna drink we are going to we
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called it schmeeze that was our code word and we would shmeeze together and
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she was really the only person in my life that I could talk to about this or
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even Explore that plant with because it was it was very taboo so schmeezing just
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to clarify for everybody that was you guys smoking cannabis together that says smoking cannabis together I mean I mean
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we don't even know where we got this from it could have been oregano at the time and it was terrible but it it
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helped yeah it helped so much that was really the first time where I
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could eat again and I was laughing and I was having introspective conversations
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and the the tunnel didn't seem so dark um and that's when a light bulb kind of
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went off like wow this is actually helping me as opposed to what I was taught for this plant to be detrimental
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to our our mental health right right absolutely and and I I laughed at the
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mainly schmeezing I I think it's a funny word first of all but also I remember yeah but I remember the codes as well
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you know in in the days of prohibition when it wasn't something that we were just talking openly about me and my friends would say a paint we would we're
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gonna go paint and that was our code word even though painting's a real thing then people would do we that's not what
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we were that's not what we meant by so much more classier than schmeeze so all right was covert right like this you
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it actually was an activity that maybe somebody would go do so if we were overheard the thinking was that yeah
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there would be no suspicion but I totally get that oh man smart you're already you're already 10 steps ahead
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well Eddie but you know I I think it sounds to me like you know the it's really great that you had that friend
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though that and you and you already one night a week you found the value in not
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drinking and you guys would utilize cannabis together and the way you describe those sessions and kind of how
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you felt maybe just even momentarily alleviated like the tunnel didn't feel so dark and the notion of that moment
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when you sort of figure out for yourself the difference in the reality of what
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cannabis is or can be for people versus what the prevailing information that was
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kind of uh publicly known the propaganda that was put out about what the plant was and what we'd all heard for so long
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that Awakening uh I think it's kind of a powerful moment for all of us who've discovered Canada listen and what it can
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do and and it sounds like it was that way for you too when you said that I had kind of an Awakening and in 2009 with
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this plant I would say it was it made me look at cannabis In a
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Different Light than what I was taught but the Awakening I had with cannabis
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didn't really happen until 2020 and that was really the year when I had to start
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asking myself big questions of what do I need to change in my life and how am I going to change that in my life and
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really the biggest problem or the biggest area that was holding me back was this addiction with alcohol and
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um that alcohol really played a significant role in trying to
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feel that grief when my husband passed away and when I needed to get alcohol out of
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my life I struggled with it I struggled a lot with it it was it was harder than I thought it was going to be and
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I was introduced to cannabis again because in 2009
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I ended up moving away to Colorado and I never had I didn't have that friend again she went to New
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York I went to Colorado and so um everything changed and Colorado
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wasn't legal yet right so I went back to drinking and then I kind of depended on it more and so it wasn't
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until uh like I said 2020 where I had this big kind of Jesus moment with
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myself and I had to eliminate what was holding me back so I was re-introduced
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to cannabis in 2020 and it was this moment of okay I I cannot care what
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people think of me like if a mom should know I do this that's that's her own
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judgment and for me not to carry and it was this idea
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and the stigma that is just so prevalent right now that this is bad this is bad
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when so many people in this circle of moms drink constantly like that's that's
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what they do they drink but when I started telling close moms
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that I'm an advocate for cannabis it's really funny how many people have come
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out and say yes I I sneak gummies or or I you know I hide this behind my kids
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back or my husband's back and I and I just do it for me right and so I had the
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Awakening in 2020 because I started accepting it and I stopped caring what
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people's judgment was about about me and about using this plant and I'd have to
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say cannabis was a huge step for me to stop drinking and I'm not even alcohol
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free right I think that is just one of those that dark side of me that I have
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to constantly get myself in check and it did and it definitely did stem from from
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loss and from grief and I wasn't if anyone is listening to this
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I'm sure you're shaking your head of like yeah when we are drinking and we're facing a significant loss you don't feel
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it when we talk about not being able to process our emotions or not being able
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to feel what the pain is alcohol will completely numb that out right and it takes you back 10 steps because it's a
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depressant it makes the process a hundred times worse and so when I stopped drinking in 2020 actually around
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2020 I kind of cut back 2020 is really when I stopped but I had to go back in
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time and grieve my husband's death because I never gave myself the permission to do it because I was I was
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in neighboring I was I was intoxicated right yeah and that's I think that's you you bring up a lot of great points there
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Miranda there's a lot kind of to unpack but I want to dial in just on on two key ones one that notion that you just said
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about kind of how alcohol is it presses pause you know it's sort of like you in
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that moment you know you you just like Dive In into that pool of liquor let's say and and you're just the rest of your
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life is is beyond it so you're not processing the emotions the loss you're feeling you're not your your mind is not
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able to kind of move through the stages of grief and get yourself to that acceptance and being able to kind of
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exist in a more peaceful State alcohol doesn't we lean on it as a crutch and but it it's even though you'll feel you
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think that you're you're kind of dealing with the problem but it's it's more of a um it's not a solution it's a uh it's
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it's a distraction and the other thing I want to say is that kind of rolls into the normalization of the substances of
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things like alcohol caffeine cigarettes uh for a long time you know alcohol the worst one but I mean there are certain
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substances that have been normalized as part of society in America and so yeah
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food exactly fast food sugars you know um there's there's these things that are
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kind of utilized by you know uh but whatever controlling power you kind of
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want to point at in a moment but basically it's the people who are interested in keeping the status quo as
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it exists they have a vested interest in those specific substances being
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normalized things like alcohol and cigarettes and caffeine things that are sort of I guess in their minds accepted
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as the productivity drugs and that normalization that the normalization of
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those things of the cigarettes of alcohol caffeine there's a lot of people who are hooked on these substances and
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and don't realize how powerful those holds are over them but with the
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substance and the behaviors that are tied to them as well and I just think it's so crucial that you found cannabis
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as this alternative that offered you a sort of off-ramp to that tunnel and I I
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think that one of the reasons I started the show and one of the things that I I'm endeavoring to do here is that I
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want to try and take this stigma on as well and just by talking with people like you and anyone else who's kind of
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had a life-changing experience in a positive way from Cannabis trying to put these stories out they're allowing
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people to know that there are alternatives to these things that society says are the way to go when
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you're having a problem there are better Alternatives out there and cannabis is right at the top of that list you're
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absolutely right now I always like to play Devil's Advocate you have to because I know that the people listening
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to this podcast are are in favor of cannabis right so you have a particular
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audience now what if you get the random person who says marijuana weed that's a
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gateway drug that she's just turning one addiction into the other and I get that
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like I'm not sitting here and saying you know could smoking cannabis turn into addiction absolutely but guess what it
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hasn't it hasn't controlled my life like alcohol did it didn't it didn't I didn't
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wake up one one evening after smoking cannabis and the next morning I regretted what I said to my husband or
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my daughter or a friend or did I have something stupid you know what I mean it's yeah people are so quick to judge
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and say it's just one addiction okay all right John and let me ask you a question what's your addiction what is yours
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because we all got something and you mentioned that like we all had got this this thing inside of us that kind of
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just keeps us in check that we need to be be in control of so it doesn't take over our life cannabis has not has only
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improved my life like and we're gonna get into that too because everything everything of who I'd be become and how
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I work and how I help people is is through the help of this plant and I'm
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really glad you you did say that and then believe me I you know as I mentioned you know I do news I'm broadcast journalist I I try at least
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think of myself as somebody with like a little bit of integrity and I do even though I'm pro-cannabis and I've made
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that you know it's clear from the show I I've spoken to people on the show who are not pro-cannabis and I make I always
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let people know that I'm not here thinking that cannabis is a Panacea for everybody's problems I don't think it's
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a perfect solution for for everybody I I have plenty of close people in my life who've tried it and there it's not for
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them and that's that's totally fine like it's it doesn't it doesn't lessen my enjoyment of it and I don't think that
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their dis enjoyment of it or they're not taking pleasure and it is some kind of uh mistake or or you know Folly like
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they didn't do it right or something I don't think it's right for everybody but it's more what I do believe is that for
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those of us who have decided that it is right for us and we prefer it to the Alternatives of alcohol alcohol or
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Pharmaceuticals that might be prescribed us I think we should be just as allowed to have it as a normal part of our Lives
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as those other substances are given the green light to be a total normal everyday part of everybody's lives as
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well yep so uh yeah yeah and so so Miranda on that note you know you we we
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met on the wisdom app and you you utilize that as a way of communicating
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with people and kind of Hosting talks if if you're not familiar listener it's kind of uh an app where people host live
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live conversations you can ask questions of people and they'll provide audio answers and whatnot and and Miranda uh
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why don't you tell you know the listener about kind of the talks that you host on on wisdom and the stay dry while you cry
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um initiative that you've got going ah so cool thank you for bringing that up you know wisdom has been one of the most
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instrumental platforms I've ever been introduced to um especially on a social media level it
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has changed everything about me and how I want to speak especially about grief
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and and I guess cannabis and just taking our spirituality to to the next level so
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um I'm a medium that is one way that I help people work through grief a medium
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is someone who has the capabilities or the ability to tap into the other side and communicate with your loved ones who
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have passed on before you but I will never say that this is my gift I I don't
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put myself on this pedestal I am no different from you Don I'm no different
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from anybody listening to this we all have this ability to tap into higher Consciousness and and connect with any
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energy and I just so happen to connect with energies of loved ones and people
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who are working through grief working through death and they need to know their their beloved is okay and I reach
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for people once and then if people and if someone comes back to me and says I
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need to fill I need to hear from them again I I say no I'm sorry I really now
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teach you I will now teach you how to do it because a lot of people they rely on
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psychic mediums to build this connection with them and their loved ones and I say no this is up to you this is this is
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your grief healing path if this is something you really need so you can move forward let me show you how and wow
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that that ended up just being my passion my purpose because after I give someone
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a reading the question is what's next okay great you told mom's with me she
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gave me evidence I know she's here with me but what do I do now I'm still still
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broken I still feel like I'm missing pieces I still miss her that was the component that's been missing in
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spirituality and connecting with their loved ones that I saw that needed a solution wow at what what's the next
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step after the reading the next step is you're going to start doing it I'm not saying you need to become a professional right you do it how you see fit no
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totally this is fascinating because I I think you really touch on some interesting points there and and I and I
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gotta highlight a big one that jumps out at me uh which is that you are the point about you making clear that you you're
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you believe that the medium is a skill more than a quality yeah or or the L
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gift as you say like I guess they are so so it's yeah it's a skill that's that you believe like everybody can exercise
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and become better at and if you know how to do it you can you know be a functioning um you know medium or I
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guess sort of at least do the the work that you would go to a medium to have done for you and I gotta say that teach
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a man to fish approach versus instead of you sort of I guess you know building a
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Client List and maybe you know growing a business this way as a as as a service of a medium I I think it's really really
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cool that you're taking a more educational approach and you do you provide a service for people who as you
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say are grieving and are in need of some kind of um spiritual connection like that but then to not push that forward
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to not I suppose uh you know treat it as a um a source of income for the future
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the way that I think a lot of people who might be skeptical of mediums and psychics tend to to fear with with those
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professions I think what you're doing sounds like a really Noble thing and it sounds like something a lot of people
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could probably benefit from yeah
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scared to do it and so that's one of the biggest um I guess positions of where I come in as
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well is not only am I going to teach you how to connect with your loved one but I'm also going to help you work through
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the obstacles right because sometimes when our loved ones pass away there's
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unsaid words there's um right you know you couldn't say goodbye there is a lot of what it could
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have showed us that we hold on and some people hold on to shame and guilt and blame and I think it is so imperative to
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work through those obstacles first because then when you're really ready to start building this new relationship
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with your loved one you feel almost healed and you're now looking at this relationship from a different point of
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view so not everyone's up for the work and sure yeah and that's okay like
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that's okay just like just like actually just like exercise and or nutrition I I
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think that there there are people who are comfortable saying I would rather Outsource the hard stuff to a
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professional and go to them once a week to to kind of stay on track versus develop that skill myself it sounds like
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it sounds like there's a parallel there with you know this spiritual connection that you're talking about yep you're
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absolutely right you know I I'm gonna be honest like I'm in kind of limbo stage right now every you know I I do I
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meditate twice a day if anyone's asking well how do I strengthen my spiritual connection this isn't the only way but
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meditation is one of the most powerful ways and it helps us connect and I'm gonna I'm actually gonna tie this in
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with cannabis now can it when I start really put a hold on drinking in 2020
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and I was tapping into cannabis I was really into this spiritual practice this
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spiritual awakening and I was using cannabis with intentions so every time I
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would actually light up I would set this intention like when I go into meditation show me what I need to see bring
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somebody forward who I need to talk to like in the wildest stuff comes up the
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wildest things happen the ideas flow the creativity flows people that I had no
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relationship with in a physical world will come up and talk to me and it's it's it's
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mind-blowing it's absolutely mind-blowing and cannabis has allowed me
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to remove to remove my ego I do when when I kind of surrendered to the plant
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that means I'm surrendering my ego and whatever comes to me and whatever flows
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I have to trust that that's what I need to see and hear and feel and sense and anyone who does enjoy cannabis and
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you're wanting to kind of expand your Consciousness or whatever or thoughts I
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have set intentions every time you light up but you cannot mix alcohol in in cannabis you cannot mix it too it
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doesn't work that way it works it works with just straight cannabis that's yeah
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it's fascinating and and actually I'm really glad I'm really glad that you said that I I uh a couple of things
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there one of them being the tie-in between cannabis and meditation it's funny because as we talk about how can
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this needs like a Rebrand like it needs the stigma needs to be you know forgotten about and if we can just move
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forward with all without all this these negative connotations that kind of linger from the Reefer Madness time it'd
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be it'd be so much better I feel the exact same about meditation like there's so many people that when they hear the
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word meditation they think of like dirty shoeless hippies out in the desert or something and they just unfortunately
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they're missing like an activity that's sort of a tool in the tool belt that can really be helpful for a lot of changing
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life-changing and and I found that cannabis really opened me up more to
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meditation I I usually I try and do it at least once a day for about 12 minutes or so and I certainly do it a few times
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a week and I just I find that it there's a lot of benefits to it but I really am interested in the the experiences that
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you said that that you're having where you set an intention ahead of your smoke session and the what's presented to you
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the kind of I would imagine the the energies the thought waves the patterns that the the people that come up it gets
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to something that you know I think anybody with any um psychedelic experience with any
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substances yeah LSD MDMA even mushrooms the set and setting before you head into
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one of these sessions really can dictate what kind of session you experience
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thereafter it's not that like I mean you know a psychedelic experience there's going to be some I think it's a journey
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no matter what and it doesn't mean to say that you can you can be great at setting a a you know setting the the the
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intention and you may still like I don't know feel some Vibes that you're not the
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most comfortable with but you but you pass through those things but it's like it's like 80 like you can control I
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would say something like 80 of of the positivity of your session with the
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appropriate intention setting do you do you think that's like fair oh yeah I and I'm so glad and I'm I'm glad you
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finished up that sentence because I it's important for people to know that every time and it's I love that you caught
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going into session because every time I do that's exactly what I'm doing I'm going into this session with myself and
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and I'm learning so much and it's not always this amazing eye-opening
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experience right it's healing experience there are times where I feel really
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anxious there are times when my breath is short there are times where I get paranoid and I get in my head and you
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know what that's telling me right now you need to slow down Miranda you need to separate yourself from this situation
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and you need to go into the bedroom and you're going to breathe this out and so when someone comes to me and says that
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we that we they'll say weed marijuana weed gives me anxiety my first question would be well do you
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have anxiety anxiety in your life oh yeah oh my God I'm anxious about everything okay well this I you ask I'm
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gonna tell you this plant is telling you something telling you to chill the excuse me oh sorry sometimes telling you
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to chill out yeah that's fine plan is telling you to relax if your kids are driving you Bonkers or
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your husband's you know making your skin crawl yourself to go on a walk and say I'll be right back right and go do it
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step away like that like you have to listen to what the plan is telling you and don't get there are times where I
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had a little too much and I'm like oh I don't feel in control right I I'm having
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a really high moment right now and I need to talk myself off the ledge a little bit like I need to calm myself
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down right so you have to be very mindful of of how much you do take and
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the people you're around oh absolutely it is it makes an ex a huge difference
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if you're in the safe environment where you need to be 100 I think that's
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crucial and that goes to the set and setting part of it the the intention that you're talking about Miranda ahead
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of the session that's your mindset right like that's the set of the of the setting the intention it's like that's
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what are you bringing to this party are you anxious about things are you people you know or or really like what what
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your emotional state is and then the setting is the other part of it the you know location you're in who you're with
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are you with people that you're comfortable and familiar with that you trust as sort of you know Shepherds or
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guides on this or at least aren't gonna really mess up the vibe in the room or anything or are you in a home that you
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haven't been in before with people you're not that familiar with sort of in a situation where I guess paranoia or
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discomfort is not that far away and all that stuff the set and setting people
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don't realize how much that dictates the experience you're gonna have yep yep and
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it also you know you mentioned um being mindful as you're consuming and you want to be kind of ideally you know
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introspective you know knowing very uh comfortably where you are in any of those what your status is of your
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mindset and the setting and I think that gets back to not consuming alcohol while you're doing this stuff I mean I know
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people do like I I believe I've done it myself I at a party it's like gummy gummies gummy and alcohol sometime if
46:24
you're comfortable with both they can do a nice little dance in your system and it could be great but the thing is if you're if you're not comfortable with
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both or you're sort of I don't know just not in control or in command of your set
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and setting in relation to these substances the combination of alcohol and cannabis is it really inviting some
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just potential disaster to the scenario and I think a lot of people make that mistake you couldn't have you couldn't
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have said that better you really could not couldn't have but I you said something about being in control and it
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made me think of I think that's why a lot of people have have reservations about cannabis is because they they were
47:02
using in the wrong environment they smoked too much it was the wrong strain whatever it was probably mixing alcohol
47:08
with it everything was a perfect storm but people get really tripped up when
47:13
they're not in control of themselves and I think that's a good thing though because we do we want to feel in control we want to know what our next step is
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what's coming out of our mouth and I do feel that people with with problems with alcohol too
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um you know it's it's this point of losing control over yourself right that
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a lot of people I guess kind of fear because we're just we're beings we're
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human beings and I think to a certain degree all of us have this this sense of
47:43
wanting to control and um Honestly though cannabis is used in the right way with the right intentions
47:50
it allows you to surrender and allows you to let go and to really go within
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and that's why it's so impactful and appealing Journey because you get to
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face it you get to face all of the emotions that come up and that's the scary part like I get that that's why no
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one wants to go there because they don't want to feel that but you have to feel that if you want to move through that
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you really do but you know and once you do have that emotional release you feel
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better the next day and you know you were doing it the right way as opposed to being inebriated in your in your
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closet just just so drunk and having these moments of wailing and you're
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waking up the next day like I don't feel better I feel worse right right but you
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asked me like if I do any services with cannabis and I actually
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have this dream I have this Big Dreams lay it on me share it yeah yeah I want
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to Retreat I know Retreat is the Hot Topic these days but I want it to be a
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cannabis grief Retreat where you come for three days and it's all inclusive and I already have the house I already
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got rights to use cannabis on the property if it's doing it the right way and I did this I did the stupid thing
49:15
and reached out to the state I didn't say anything but I just wanted to know legally like what I could do if I could
49:23
gift it you know and you can't gift it yeah if you get caught you you you do
49:30
some community service I'm like oh I just I couldn't keep the homeless I could go pick up some trash I'm up for
49:37
it this'd be totally worth it right right exactly like I can do that sure I
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can I can is it is it worth the uh yeah it's worth the problem I guess unless you were at this point uh and I don't um
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uh you were so you contacted a state I'm imagining like if if you were some a
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medical caregiver maybe like if you were for a medical patient there may be some wiggle room there but it's like going
50:01
through all the paperwork and having to like sign up and be a caregiver for anybody who would be taking part in
50:07
these Retreats would be way too much complications and that that would that's not really feasible it seems like either
50:13
but um but we're you know this Patchwork legalization state by state this is not
50:18
as I talk about on the show all the time this is not going to be what the future of cannabis looks like as a matter of fact uh Washington I'm not sure if it
50:25
was DC or the state but they just put out um there's a bill that's moving through their legislature where they're
50:30
establishing the framework for interstate commerce of cannabis and when we get to this place where it's more of
50:37
a under the federal umbrella when the states can talk to each other when it's not so much like every state is its own
50:43
individual country right now with cannabis laws I think that you'll you'll have a lot more opportunity you'll have
50:50
a lot more wiggle room with something like this cannabis grief Retreat which sounds like an awesome idea by the way
50:55
oh thank you it's gonna happen it is definitely going to happen um but it that was kind of like my my
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little sign too like you're not there yet because I really want to do this the right way I don't want to get in trouble
51:07
for it I want I don't want to hide anything um and so but and that'll come down the
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path and I'm just for now you are still doing stuff though like you're using wisdom and you are you have your podcast
51:19
where it sounds like you you do readings and you offer people um support that way I'm just would you
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let people know you know when you're on wisdom and when they can look for your podcast oh I appreciate that John yes
51:31
and now as far as reading goes I only do in-person sessions when it comes to grief healing just I can't do it through
51:38
a screen for sure to to Santa Fe New Mexico if you want our reading
51:43
um but I'm always doing impromptu talks on wisdom you can find me at Miranda may increase medium and then my podcast my
51:51
podcast is my baby it has changed my life it is called let to the living
51:56
basically I write letters to channeled letters to people who have faced
52:02
significant loss and who have walked the grief healing path um I am all about death grief loss in
52:09
the afterlife and I'm here to answer anyone's questions wow so that doesn't see anything you got so it's letters to
52:16
the living that's the podcast right letters to the living yep all right that's that's awesome so listener you heard it there you can find Miranda May
52:22
on wisdom she does impromptu talks there or you can check out her letters to the living podcast
52:28
um and uh and look out uh you know just keep an eye out down the road for some uh for some cannabis grief Retreats if
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you're uh if that sounds good to you like it does to me I think that would be an experience that sounds cathartic and
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and therapeutic um for a lot of reasons a lot of you know a helpful support there that I
52:45
think again something that people can definitely make use of and and benefit from so uh Miranda I like to kind of
52:50
wrap these things up I could definitely talk to you I'll tell you about these things but I like I like to I like to
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wrap these up by doing some quick hits questions about you know what are your favorite you know things here are you are you game for this sure okay
53:03
great all right quit all right cool quick all right quick hit number one it's always the same morning bird or a
53:08
night owl which are you Morning Bird Morning Bird uh how early is it like Sunrise is it like six a.m like where's
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the six six is it yeah okay is a good time for me yeah for sure yeah that's uh
53:22
that's I feel that myself favorites uh movie let's say what do you like to or or TV what do you like to watch and this
53:28
is something where it's either a a classic that you anytime you see it come on the TV you're happy to throw it on or
53:34
something if you're looking for a certain mood you'll you'll put it on and you're just always happy to watch it what do you like oh I don't I this is
53:41
the toughest question for me I don't answer it because I don't watch a lot of TV and
53:48
um that's all right there's movies where people will look at me sideways like you haven't seen that movie
53:53
um I I don't I don't do that I don't pass judgment on people for whatever content but it's a Disney movie if Moana
54:01
is ever on I will Moana okay okay that's that is a classic
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and I mean it I hope you edit this part out I really do no definitely saying let
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me answer these questions no problem that's definitely staying in there though I will say uh all right next next quick hit is um substance of choice and
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I know we were talking about you know we talked about cannabis and how important is that can be your answer too and obviously you know alcohol with with the
54:25
past and stuff it's I would understand if you're not um imbibing in that but I always ask the guests like we all lean
54:30
on substances do you like to drink coffee in the morning are you a tea drinker do you you know have a joint at night like what's your what do you lean
54:37
on you know day to day yeah I definitely enjoy um a nice into couple at night small and
54:45
then I love to drink coffee in the morning with hazelnut creamer nice and I
54:50
love Waterloo sparkling water oh sparkling water yeah I like uh like some
54:57
Fizz I like fizzy water that's good stuff yeah I'm not completely alcohol free either and you know what I do enjoy
55:04
a glass of red wine yeah for sure yeah I agree red is it's got the flavonoids it's healthy heart healthy and it's um
55:11
and it's tasty you know it's something it's nice to do every now and again uh and then um favorite Cuisine or
55:17
restaurant food like if you're celebrating something what do you like to eat Italian I I I love Italian I live
55:25
for Italian food yep nice love it pastas ravioli oh pasta pasta sauce I love
55:32
shrimp scampi I love uh yeah Italian that's great yeah
55:37
that's a classic and uh and I guess just uh music what music do you like to listen to either if you're trying to cultivate A vibe or unwind at the end of
55:44
a long day you know what do you like to kind of put on um I have many playlists going on it all
55:51
they all change I will say that when I'm writing or when I need to open myself up
55:56
I will listen to um East Forest radio and then and there is a flute player on insight timer his
56:04
name is Swami and Swami will get you to another dimension wow I like it Swami on
56:12
insight timer little plug there I love it uh I I like inside timer too I use that for meditation by the way it's it's
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just a great little uh app it's free listener if you want to check that one out highly recommended yep and and I
56:25
have a list of amazing meditations that will help in area any areas of your life so definitely reach out there there you
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go listener look for Miranda May on wisdom look for her on insight timer and check out her podcast letters to the
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living Miranda uh thanks for everything you're doing thanks for stopping by today he really shared some great info
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yeah yeah and and I hope we can chat again in the future absolutely appreciate the opportunity thanks everybody have a good day you too
56:52
bye-bye thank you and there you have it listener I want to
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thank again my guest Miranda may she is just lovely and I'm really happy that her personal Journey has you know sort
57:06
of found cannabis and that it's helping her so much and she was able to kind of get off of alcohol which is problematic
57:12
long term for your health everybody kind of knows that I think now accepts it to a degree so I'm really happy for her and
57:18
it's really cool what she's offering people this knowledge of if you like how to sort of do your own communing with
57:26
those you've lost in your life if that sounds like something interesting to you you can reach out to Miranda on wisdom
57:32
or on the insight timer app like she mentioned uh and I'm really excited to hear more about her plans in the future
57:39
and those grief Retreats involving or utilizing cannabis I guess I'm very excited to see where that goes I also
57:45
wanted to let you know listener Miranda emailed me after the interview and she sort of didn't really give an answer and
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the quick hits about her favorite thing to watch and she mentioned sort of corrected herself that she really enjoys
57:55
the show Ted lasso which I've got to agree with there's a new season coming up on Apple TV plus uh Jason Sudeikis is
58:02
wonderful it's it's got kind of a shit's creek vibe to it if you're familiar listener it's it's sort of a show where
58:08
the stakes never really get too dire uh things don't really get you know there's there's not hyper violence the conflict
58:15
doesn't have to do with um you know world peace or somebody trying to take over the universe it's very sort of
58:21
small Stakes family life and usually the conflicts are resolved with dialogue or a handshake or a hug or something and
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it's it's very much a feel-good show and I so I enjoy it I'm looking forward to that third season and I think that was a
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pretty good choice by Miranda I'm glad that she uh opened up and shared uh that choice once she thought of it one more
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thing of note Before I Let You Go listener Delaware Senate tells Congress to end federal marijuana prohibition as
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the state moves to enact legalization this is from the marijuana momentpublication.net if you're
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interested listener I won't read the whole thing but uh Delaware lawmakers are moving closer to enacting cannabis
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legislation this session the Senate approved resolution last week urging the state's Congressional reps to support
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legislation and to end the federal cannabis prohibition the measures from representative Eric buxon he's a
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republican it cleared the chamber in near unanimous 15 to 1 vote on the same week that the house passed complimentary
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legislation and sales regulation bills that's for cannabis the whereas section
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of the resolution starts by describing how cannabis remains a schedule one drug under the federal controlled substance
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act despite the scientific consensus that cannabis has established medical benefits for certain conditions like
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pain and multiple sclerosis let me add nausea stomach issues and uh sleep issues things like insomnia I would say
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that is probably I would say the jury's no longer out on that I believe that science has backed that up as well it
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explains this bill how prohibition has meant that medical cannabis patients make large out-of-pocket expenses for
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their medicine with access to insurance coverage options this is something I've been seeing come up more and more as
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well listener if you're seeing stuff on social media like I am people are starting to wonder when medical cannabis
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is going to be covered by things like Medicare or Medicaid I mean these are our medical insurance that we pay for to
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cover certain treatments and prescription drugs and all of that if cannabis has been established medically as it has to have these benefits and now
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it's being prescribed as as a legitimate medicine which it should be people who have medical insurance coverage should
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absolutely have that cannabis that's been prescribed them covered by their medical insurance benefits I think that
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this is no that's the end of it there's no debating about this there's no question of whether or not this should
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be done this should be done it should be done immediately there are high out-of-pocket costs for medical patients
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right now and the fact is we're all I mean not all of us but a lot of people are paying money every quarter every
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month sometimes out of their pocket for insurance benefits as well as paying out of pocket for the medicine that they've
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been prescribed by a doctor by going to dispensaries or whatever so this is some something this is another one of those
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sort of contradictions that is still in existence because we're moving to the legal cannabis you know world this
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contradiction needs to be resolved and it needs to be resolved immediately this is something that is foolish for medical patients to basically be paying for
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coverage twice through the insurance and then buying their own medicine I think anybody would look at that and say that
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it's foolish so this is something that Congress needs to get on right now so that was what I wanted to bring to your attention I will share the marijuana
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Instagram if you're not following the show already I tend to share articles there I'm also looking into starting a
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newsletter this is something that I've been thinking about for the show sort of a collection of the topics I talk about
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a little breakdown of the interviews with my guests as well as some things to watch going forward in the weeks ahead
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between my episodes so if that's something you might be interested in definitely let me know in the comments
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uh the episode show notes there's a reply section if you want to leave a reply to any episode I'm definitely
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